Seeking Advice: What Is The Best/Thickest Clear Coat Around?

[djdavebse]

whats sup guys. couple days ago my car got a little scratched up on the right fender and bumper so i will be taking it to my uncle to be repainted. i read online that alot of guys said nissan used thin clear coat on these cars so it gets scratched easy.

so whats the best clear coat i can use so when im washing the car or anything the car doesn't get fine scratches.



***NOTE*** i know that some of the white paint is sitting on the original paint but piece of the bumper got cut so it has to be filler back

[packetattack]

Nope, the thickness has nothing to do with it. You can shoot multiple layers of clear coat and it will still get scratched. Thick clear coat has nothing to do with scratch resistance. Think about, it's thicker, won't the top layer still get scratched? Of course it will. What a thicker clear coat will give you is the ability to repeatedly polish over time and still have enough clearcoat on the car to protect the basecoat.

You will want to look at getting a very hard clearcoat however beware that it will chip easier.

PPG OEM's ceramiclear coats and self healing paints are used on Benz and Volvo including the new Infinitis. I don't know if this can be applied aftermarket at a paint shop. You will want to talk to DanNY here since he's much more knowledgble about paints than I am, he also does some body work.

http://www.ppg.com/coatings/autooem/...learcoat.aspx/

[99maxi]

When going for a clear coat use something high solid. PPG offers a few different lines of clear coat, if your uncle is repainting it for you, I would believe he would know which products would be good.

[DanNY]

Originally Posted by djdavebse

whats sup guys. couple days ago my car got a little scratched up on the right fender and bumper so i will be taking it to my uncle to be repainted. i read online that alot of guys said nissan used thin clear coat on these cars so it gets scratched easy.

so whats the best clear coat i can use so when im washing the car or anything the car doesn't get fine scratches.



***NOTE*** i know that some of the white paint is sitting on the original paint but piece of the bumper got cut so it has to be filler back

ANY clearcoat will scratch...that's ANY. MB, BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, Honda, Nissan, etc.

If you're getting fine scratches when you're washing your car then you're not washing your car correctly. learn to have the right tools to wash your car and you'll get less scratches.

i don't understand what you're really looking for here. are you saying that you read ppl say nissan has a thin clear coat...what do you think it going to happen if the clear is thin? rock chips? less protection on scrapes?

Personally i use PPG Concept 2021. It goes on nice, good shine/gloss, and it's a little harder of a clear compared to others.

you can spray 100 coats on it...it won't do jack on the scratches. from your damage NO paint/clear would've saved you from that.

if you're interested in protecting your paint...might consider looking into paint protection films.

do yourself a favor...if your uncle is a professional body shop guy...LET HIM DO HIS JOB. he'll know what's the best thing to do. whatever brand of paint he use...he will use it. if he like working with another brand (dupont, BASF, glasurite, etc)...let him use it and let him use his best judgement. stop reading what "other people" are saying. about 95% of them never picked up a HVLP spray gun and their "experience" of body work is from a rattle can that reads dupli color or krylon.

[packetattack]

DJDave, like Dan said you're probably not washing your car correctly as all.

Using the wrong wash media for both washing and drying can cause some severe marring and swirls.

I use the two bucket wash method with grit guards and a boars hair brush for both of my cars and dried with a cordless leaf blower (coat of wax or sealant makes the water run right off) and just a slight go over in certain parts that need further drying with an "Absorb-It" or chamois. If the car is particularly dirty, I'll use a foam lance to apply soap and let it wash most of the grit/dirt off the car before washing.

I detail both of my cars myself with a Makita rotary and probably only need to do a light polishing once a year to keep the finish looking as defect free as possible. This is done with a light polish containing diminishing abrasives and not a compound.

[kmoney]

Wats the name of the detail he use to dry the car the second time?

[djdavebse]

Originally Posted by DanNY

ANY clearcoat will scratch...that's ANY. MB, BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, Honda, Nissan, etc.

If you're getting fine scratches when you're washing your car then you're not washing your car correctly. learn to have the right tools to wash your car and you'll get less scratches.

i don't understand what you're really looking for here. are you saying that you read ppl say nissan has a thin clear coat...what do you think it going to happen if the clear is thin? rock chips? less protection on scrapes?

Personally i use PPG Concept 2021. It goes on nice, good shine/gloss, and it's a little harder of a clear compared to others.

you can spray 100 coats on it...it won't do jack on the scratches. from your damage NO paint/clear would've saved you from that.

if you're interested in protecting your paint...might consider looking into paint protection films.

do yourself a favor...if your uncle is a professional body shop guy...LET HIM DO HIS JOB. he'll know what's the best thing to do. whatever brand of paint he use...he will use it. if he like working with another brand (dupont, BASF, glasurite, etc)...let him use it and let him use his best judgement. stop reading what "other people" are saying. about 95% of them never picked up a HVLP spray gun and their "experience" of body work is from a rattle can that reads dupli color or krylon.

well i thought the thicker it is it would be a little tuffer with fine scratches but that makes sense about me not washing the car properly

Originally Posted by packetattack

DJDave, like Dan said you're probably not washing your car correctly as all.

Using the wrong wash media for both washing and drying can cause some severe marring and swirls.

I use the two bucket wash method with grit guards and a boars hair brush for both of my cars and dried with a cordless leaf blower (coat of wax or sealant makes the water run right off) and just a slight go over in certain parts that need further drying with an "Absorb-It" or chamois. If the car is particularly dirty, I'll use a foam lance to apply soap and let it wash most of the grit/dirt off the car before washing.

I detail both of my cars myself with a Makita rotary and probably only need to do a light polishing once a year to keep the finish looking as defect free as possible. This is done with a light polish containing diminishing abrasives and not a compound.

YouTube - Washing Your Vehicle Using The Two-Bucket Method

i gotta get me another bucket lol. i only use one bucket with the turtle wax soap with my washing towel. first i wash off all of the dirt first then start to soap down top to bottom rinse off again then i use turtle wax wax and dry to get a nice shine

[ncusher]

get your car painted then apply some 3m clear bra to it the protective film

[HomerMAC]

Originally Posted by packetattack

DJDave, like Dan said you're probably not washing your car correctly as all.

Using the wrong wash media for both washing and drying can cause some severe marring and swirls.

I use the two bucket wash method with grit guards and a boars hair brush for both of my cars and dried with a cordless leaf blower ...

PACK... i would def. buy a used car from you... lol.. two bucket and a leaf blower... this must be a sight for the people on your block.

[90max]

Originally Posted by HomerMAC

PACK... i would def. buy a used car from you... lol.. two bucket and a leaf blower... this must be a sight for the people on your block.

i'm sure he needs to add a extension on his leaf blower to reach the top of his fx lol short man ....

[packetattack]

Originally Posted by 90max

i'm sure he needs to add a extension on his leaf blower to reach the top of his fx lol short man ....

AirRunner suspension drops the FX to the frame, then I lift it back up again, great for entering and departing as well .